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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/07/2011 12:10:51 Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/07/2011 12:10:03 They won't answer. They can't. They have no clue what's really going on. They didn't even realize wormholes were the ultimate in null-sec, nor that they had ABC ores. Of course, once they heard that, they assumed the holes were vast spigots gushing minerals into empire without knowing even the most basic aspects of wormhole living. All they're worried about is something threatening their little null bot fleets with even the tiniest hint of competition, and I'm afraid CCP may be suckered along into the vat of stupidity.
Even if wormholes aren't exactly what CCP intended, I hope they recognize what they've become, and how fanstatic they are at this. They've evolved into something great and could use a little more buffing (ice fuels, for example, available (think Comets)) rather than a nerf.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/07/2011 13:24:36
Originally by: Wreckar I must've missed this.
Could someone point me to the dev blog that mentions exactly what they are doing?
Seems to me that the irrational irate are boarding the bandwagon early and are killing time. Again.
... eh... wrong link...
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Interesting though, that the suggestion has raised a considerable outcry. If so few people are mining those ore's in WH space, why are so many people upset? 
I would not overlook the fact that the discussion ended in the decision that more hard evidence needed to be brought forth that a change was needed... which is exactly how it should have ended.
Because they'd be removing necessary resources from -1.0 space without any reason or justification. The resources are mined and for the most part used in the holes themselves. Having to add the logistics of carting in minerals that were mined by some mega-alliance bot-fleets in a higher security status area is completely ridiculous. It's already stupid that moons in wormholes have no goo, or that wormholes are reliant on empire for ice fuels.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree
Originally by: Kalle Demos How does this affect your NC agenda
Maybe there never was an NC agenda?
Maybe ... just maybe ... You're basically always wrong.
So, if I may ask, who's considering nerfing wormholes and why?
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego You have to either need the minerals to actually use for your corp manufacturing in the WH for logistics reasons, or your a complete moron if mining minerals is why you crawled into a wormhole. The absolute, near 24/7 safety that null sec, sov upgrade grav belts provide is the only place to mine for a non total noob / idiot.
They flat out know that wormholes aren't a real threat to their bot-mining in null sec. That's why they don't have the nuts to come here and counter any of their fallacious arguments.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 15/07/2011 18:06:51
Originally by: Gaylord BentwickSmyth nullsec-resident CSMs, who were surprised to learn that WH space was nullsec
Yeah, that must have come as a real surprise seeing as wspace has been around for more than two years now. In that two years, those numb-skulls claiming to represent all EVE players, have not bothered to learn or read anythingabout a part of the game which is now integral.
Shame on you CSM nullsec noobs, two years of ignorance about an obvious and out-there part of the game means you are not fit for purpose and you are unrepresentative. Thank lordy there were some CSM folks who have a clue.
Shame on you too for your silly, self-interested, uninformed, knee jerk reactions and the changes you seem to support.
Nobody can be well informed on every single aspect of EVE, it's a bit too big and a bit too complex.
Can you tell me off the top of your head the necessary components and steps that go into your best chance of success for inventing a Pilgrim BPC?
Can you tell me the most effective fit for a dual prop Dramiel, and why?
Can you tell me specifically which systems are the best ones to farm Gurista's rats and which ships are best for it?
Can you tell me which Epic Arc missions are the most lucurative, and why?
My point is, there are area's that each CSM delegate has an excellent depth of knowledge in, and area's that they do not. That would be why we have more than one.
@Haulie Berry
You are correct, which would explain the rest of my post, as well as my other posts. 
If there's something you don't know, shouldn't you gain some knowledge about it before screaming for it to be nerfed? Gee, there's ABC in wormholes? Take it away! My bots are sad!
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.15 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kerah Yahr Edited by: Kerah Yahr on 15/07/2011 19:00:26
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Gaylord BentwickSmyth nullsec-resident CSMs, who were surprised to learn that WH space was nullsec
Nobody can be well informed on every single aspect of EVE, it's a bit too big and a bit too complex.
I agree that Eve is big and complex. I'm just not so sure about someone calling for nerfs on something they don't even know the basics about. I don't know about anyone else, but spending 2 seconds in WHS, seeing the '0.0' constantly being displayed on the upper-left part of the screen is a dead giveaway that it's null. But Eve is complex, I could be wrong.
[Edit] I realize that they may not have even been into W-space at all. My opinion still stands, why ask to change something that you don't know anything about.
Just as an fyi... in wormholes it's -1.0, not 0.0.
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